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Hartman Fans in a Nutshell by Coonfoot Hartman Fans in a Nutshell by Coonfoot
While it isn't as bad as the Sega, Rare, Star Wars, Simpsons, or Looney Tunes fanbases, the fanbase for the shows of Butch Hartman can be REAL obnoxious and demanding and obnoxiously demanding. I just had to get it off my chest in my first "Political-ish Junk" piece in a while.

While I agree with quite a few things they say, they need to stop being SO forward about it all. They'll spam up message boards, the blog of the show, and even blogs of the show's staff to get their whiny points across.

A LOT of what this crazy girl fan is saying (who BTW is yet another example of my real drawing style) is inspired by real complaints I've heard. Again, I agree with a few of them, but I don't obsess over it like they do. One quote I didn't use that really chaps me is something along the lines of "If I see Hartman, I'm going to voice all my complaints right in his face, just to watch him squirm." ...REALLY? Speaking out to help the show is one thing, but if you do it to intentionally make someone feel bad to the point of squirming, you're a douche. End of story.

Well, let the possible flood of fan-hate towards me for making this picture begin! XD
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The Fairly OddParents, Danny Phantom, and T.U.F.F. Puppy created by Butch Hartman. All owned by Nickelodeon.
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:iconrealdiegoamateur:
RealDiegoAmateur Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015
T.U.F.F. and Danny are OK but Fairly odd Parents Shits on my childhood
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:iconsuperawesomegodzilla:
Oh, hey, look, a strawman. Great.
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:iconearwaxkid:
EarWaxKid Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014
Funny
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:iconbibbledoo:
Bibbledoo Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Anytime someone insults those shows (or anything I love) I make them rue the day they decided to hate.
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eeveeboy06 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014
their's only a few fanbases i think are completely ridiculous. the sonic fanbase and the butch hartman fanbase.
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:iconelijahacquah:
ElijahAcquah Featured By Owner Edited Jul 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Fanboys and fangirls ALWAYS make things worse with their hate and in-fighting. :no:
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:iconobjectville2013:
Objectville2013 Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014
How about more references so people can sue us.
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:iconasalover:
asalover Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
I respect Butch Hartman.;) (Wink) 
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SydneyitsSydneyYo Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
True.
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:iconemptytome:
EmptyTome Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know, some fans think they are so entitled and I'm just like: it's not their show, not their characters, and the writers do not owe them anything. 

Nothing and it just breaks my heart that some phans go out of their way to bitch about it. 
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raichu566 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would say,
" FOR THE LOVE OF CRUD, MAKE IT STOP!!!"
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:iconstarpaw007:
StarPaw007 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013
DANNY PHANTOM!! <3
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:icondyingmarshmallows:
DyingMarshmallows Featured By Owner May 12, 2013
No cartoon is aboslutely perfect people. I'm sure pros AND cons to it same with the new looneytoons.
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Orange-Octopi Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who is incredibly annoyed by the general fan attitude!
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:iconrocicandypop:
RociCandyPop Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Who is the girl? O__O
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:iconcoonfoot:
Coonfoot Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Just a random depiction of a "fan."
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:iconrocicandypop:
RociCandyPop Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, okay ^^
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:iconlombaxcat:
Lombaxcat Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
me: (wacks girl) hello sorry would you just....... SHUT UP!
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:iconlordgojira:
LordGojira Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think this pic may speak for every fan base out there :iconxd--plz:.
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GojiBob Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's sad that Hartman's shows attract a lot of rabid, insane fanboys/girls. :iconfacepalmplz:

It's things like those that make it harder to enjoy his shows the way they were meant to be enjoyed.
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MarioPhineas76 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012   Photographer
Poor Danny, Timmy, and Dudley.
they have to go through this type of shit
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TUFFAgentShepherd Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2012  Student Artist
While I DO agree with most of the complaints (mostly women, namely Kitty Katswell, don't get developed as much), they need to realize that they're FLIPPIN' cartoons! I mean, most fans dis Dudley and praise Kitty, and vice-versa, and some complained that TUFF Puppy is more annoying than stupid. Well, I say phooey to them. TUFF Puppy's awesome, even though I'm writing an alternate TUFF series where Kitty's the main focus. Dudley's the main focus in the real show.

So, with that, I tip my hat to you, my man.
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mickeyelric11 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I agree with this!!! Clever work :)
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CeliaMae17 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Student Writer
I have to admit, I do agree with some of the complaints...but some are just STUPID and done to death. Okay, Cosmo's voice is annoying. I get it. Women aren't represented enough. I get it. Wanda is annoying now. I get it. Timmy changed his name to Timantha, I get it. Every single complaint I sympathized with...until I ran into the same ones over and over again. Then it just became annoying.
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DandyAndy1989 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2012
I'd be lying if I said I disagree. Hartman is a great guy. He's had a lot of great ways to work with these shows. Though I do think that DP was a little more aimed at teens there and there are too many fangirls ogling at the titled character. FOP did have a good run for a while, but I think Cosmo went from stupid to disgustingly retarded. And Poof wasn't really much of a great edition. I mean, his anti-self can actually speak for crying out loud! And TP does have quite a few running gags there in each episode that should ease up a bit. But they each have their own traits.

Now, I think the whole premise on capturing ghosts for DP is neat and original, but I do think they could have developed the characters and even the ghosts a little more. And what if Jazz had some of the powers Danny had? And what about Dani herself? Did she ever come back? Not that I know of. But I have to admit, I think this show is pretty overrated because of said fangirls.

And I think FOP has overstayed its welcome quite a bit, especially after all those made for TV movies. The one with Crocker ruling the world with a magic muffin to commemorate Timmy not having revealed the existence of his fairies for a whole year, the one where Timmy flees into TV and Vicky does the same and they battle it out in parodies of famous shows and cartoons rather than some of their own, the summer vacation musical with the pixies, though I can say I liked the pixies, the American Idol spoof with Norm who is also a likable villain, and the Wishology Trilogy. I think they had quite enough adventures. And even when that live-action movie starring Drake Bell premiered, it STILL wasn't the end. It's like Butch's SpongeBob. It just won't die.

And I have enjoyed TP quite a bit myself. But people took a look at its first promo and thought, "This is gonna suck! Butch has lost it! It's like Rocko's Modern Life or CatDog!" Now, I think Nick has had a few shows with animals acting like humans, but they're all interesting. Rocko is my favorite, and TP is my 2nd. People just don't give it that much of a chance just because of some gags and characters and personalities. But Dudley isn't really all that dumb and childish. He's had his brilliant moments, and that's respectable. Though I think for once, Kitty and Dudley should act like each other. Dudley gets serious and focused, and Kitty gets childish and silly. That would be interesting. I may even write an episode like that. Heck, I even wrote a fan-made musical of the first episode of the show. I just felt like something like that was bound to happen. And maybe Snaptrap and DOOM have been used a lot, but they have great moments, too. Though they should use the Chameleon and Bird Brain a bit more often, too, and make some more unique villains or bring back some ones that seemed one-shot there like the Stinkbug. But I still enjoy it no matter what.

So, there. I was subtle, I was clear, I listed the pros and cons to it, and that's it. Take care.
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gumballkitty Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
I think they should create a new villian, and villian whose seriously evil like Jack Rabbit and R.I.T.A.
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:icondandyandy1989:
DandyAndy1989 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
That would be cool to see.
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MangaOtakuTB15 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012  Student General Artist
T.U.F.F. Puppy's reaction made my day! XD

I agree. I even remember watching both DP and FOP when I was a kid. *sigh* At least I know it's not only anime fans having crazies! XD Though ours is same but on steroids compared to shows like these! DX Know what's even weirder? The fanbase for sports! Yep. The fans can be just as crazy. Same with fans of a particular performer, music group, etc.

Yeah...fandoms in every spectrum has their fellow crazy ranters! XD
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moonlitinuyasha1985 Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012
The fans are crazy.:(
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Creative-Dreamr Featured By Owner May 25, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep, in a nutshell alright.
To be honest, TUFF Puppy was the first Hartman series I really got into (I've seen a few FOP episodes and liked them. Never got into DP.). I've visited a few blogs/sites and everyone of them has a few or at least one of these complaints...most of them presented in a pretty nasty manner, especially towards TUFF. Really, people were criticizing the show even before it premiered.
I must be one of the few people that actually likes Snaptrap's voice(Heck, he's my second fave after Ollie in TUFF), and Cosmo's voice and doesn't bother me at all. Yeah, TUFF does need a wider villain base, but I still like the show and think the character designs are great, epspecially considering it's animal designs they're working with. I guess I just try to enjoy these shows for what they are. One thing that gets me is when people complain that Butch can't draw just because his designs are simplistic. Simple designs have nothing to do with an artist's drawing skills. It's just his style of drawing.
But it's sad that constant rants "fans" like these kinda ruin the enjoyment for some fans. I wonder if they even realize how silly it is that they're criticizing shows that no one is forcing them to watch, and the fact that they spend a majority of their time complaining about it. Sadly though, every fanbase is gonna have a few ranters.
Great pic. It needed to be made.:thumbsup: I salute you.:salute:
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Coonfoot Featured By Owner May 25, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
What I find odd is that people say Butch can't draw and repeats his style for too many shows, yet there are a lot of fans of old Klasky Csupo shows. Those shows were much uglier and repeated the drawing style way too much. At least with Butch's shows, there are some subtle differences between each one. T.U.F.F. Puppy, for one thing, has a much more stylized look than Butch's last two shows and it's honestly very pleasing to the eyes (like you implied when you brought up the animal designs).
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SonicXKnuckels Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
AWESOME!
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Sumechi Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And now we know why Danny Phantom was cancelled.
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DoctorDeadpool Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
My theory? They forget they're talking to real people. With feelings.

We are truly in the entitlement age.
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TucanaTheToucan Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This sounds like WhiteTriceratops in a nutshell in my own opinion.
He's a troglodyte with no Christmas or any Holiday spirit whatsoever.
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Quailheart Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2011  Student General Artist
While I'm quite honestly a big fan of Hartman, I can't say i'm totally in love with T.U.F.F puppy. Even with Jerry Trainer as "Puppy"'s voice actor, he doesn't work out for me
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juanito316ss Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
What exactly is she saying?
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WhiteTriceratops Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011
This sounds like Animejason2010 in a nutshell "IN MY OPINION!" BUUUUUUUURP!
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:iconcoonfoot:
Coonfoot Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist Filmographer
I don't know who that is, but I don't think I want to.
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vedisdragon Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
XDDDD
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RaineSageRocks Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011
I mean, I hate what Butch has done recently, especially with T.U.F.F. Puppy, but I wouldn't shout a shitton of complaints to him the moment I met him/saw him.

That's rude. :stare:
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95ACgrfs1228 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011  Student General Artist
You forgot the (creepy as f***) Crack Pairings... EVERY SINGLE FANDOM HAS ONE...

....and yes, Butch Hartman's works aren't safe either...
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Coonfoot Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011  Hobbyist Filmographer
Tell me about it. Butch himself says he doesn't like non-canon pairings and I can guess why.

Some crackships are fun for a little perversion, but others just make you want to wash yourself.
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95ACgrfs1228 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011  Student General Artist
Wow. Straight from the creator himself O_O
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animeperry Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011
hahahahahahahaha nice pic :D
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alfa9delta Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Man, it just expresses all my feelings when I read Fairly OddParents discussion threads!
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:iconbaul104:
baul104 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011
Besides, I've been watching Fairly Oddparents since 1999 and there wasn't any problems about it at all...
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baul104 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011
I till don't understand why in the fuck some people wanted to harass BH on account of negtive criticism towards the shows and the G.U.T.T. live-action TV movie. People cannot judge the way the show looks just like we can't judge thebook by its cover--no matter how it is. I think these people really need to lay off those negative criticisms about it and just stick what they have...
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vanghool Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2011
have to admit Comso is a jerk. And Timmy's dad still has that creepy smile.
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Kirbywolf Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2011  Student Artist
many of these complaints are true ok... but i must say i personally love snap-traps voice. It's supposed to be annoying sounding y' know?
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