UPDATE 2: Okay, the R&FoN mod posted a much more sincere apology now. Aside from him claiming there's "no hope" for Nickelodeon anymore, I actually sympathize with him again. He's made some good points on what Nick is doing wrong, even if there's still a smidgen of rudeness in his words, and I definitely get why he's mad. There are still things I disagree with him on, but I'm not gonna bug him about it. I'll admit it: Nickelodeon and everything related to it needs to be run much better than it is now. Unlike R&FoN, however, I'm still not giving up on them. No matter how many times we try and fail at making sure Nick gets the hint, our only real failure is when we stop trying. I don't know if R&FoN is gonna bother to try again (and it's totally his right to quit if he wants), but I'm gonna keep at it. Until either I or Nick is dead in the ground, I will not give up hope... but I will call Nick out on any dumb moves they make, on the off-chance they see me and listen.
UPDATE 1: The mod of R&FoN posted an apology... but it doesn't really seem too apologetic. Just read the comments he made below and you'll see he's still acting dickish about the whole thing. Let me just be clear: I am NOT defending Nickelodeon's bad decisions. I'd like to call them out on those, too, if it can help them improve. I'm simply commenting on how not to call them out... and this is that.
If some of you remember, I had a big misunderstanding with the guys from the Rise and Fall of Nickelodeon Facebook group
in the past, where I criticized their methods of telling Nick what they're doing wrong, but their mod explained to me that they're just using a "tough love" approach.Well, from the look of their latest post, I dare say that they're all tough and no love.
I said it in the journal entry of the last time I wrote about this and I still stand by it: I honestly don't think this is how you should try criticizing a network.
I'll admit that hyping up something 90's themed this much when it was nothing more than a channel block on a low-rated network that already has such a thing was a stupid idea, but getting this
upset over it is just unacceptable. If you want someone to listen to your criticisms, express them in a nicer and more professional way.
Ever hear of the expression, "You get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"? Well, Nick is full of the flies (that much I think the mod will agree with), but the group's mod is full of vinegar. Angry, expletive-filled vinegar. I saw some good points made in the post of his I linked to and even I wouldn't listen to him because of the way he acted. No matter what you say, you can't just have a "LISTEN TO ME OR FUCK YOU!" attitude and expect just anyone to listen to you. You have to be respectful to them first if you want to be respected back, even if you think they did you wrong first. On top of that, you certainly say stuff like "YOU'RE DEAD TO ME." That just gives the impression that you're giving up on trying to convince the network to change their ways. Don't try telling me it's just reverse psychology because I can't see that trickery working on any company. They'll likely just go "Well, screw that guy" and continue doing what you hate. So instead, keep fighting for your cause and don't act like you're giving up just because you're really ticked off. Again, use honey, not vinegar.
This isn't even the only time the mod of this group has done questionable things, either. It recently came to my attention that he posted links to leaked Harvey Beaks episodes. I know it's one of the few modern shows on Nick he likes, but leaking episodes before they air is a terrible way to support any show. A show's viewership on the air and on sponsored, legal is extremely important to a show's health. Long process short, it how its budget gets payed. If you take that away by watching it through downloads you don't pay for, the show suffers from it. If it doesn't make some kind of profit, it'll get its budget cut or might even be cancelled.
Sadly, not a lot of people realize this and get mad whenever companies like Viacom crack down on illegal distributions like that. I know R&FoN was mad when they lost a popular 90's show streaming site to a C&D from Viacom, so it's pretty clear that they're on the side of the internet that is unaware of how the television business works.
In short, despite the common ground I found with the mod before, I'm really starting to question his methods again. I get his motives, but I just can't sympathize with anyone who acts like this.
If the mod cares to get in contact with me once more and explain his methods again, I'd highly welcome it... but he'll have to explain it calmly and intelligently to me. No insults. No profanity. No empty threats. Just an honest, fact-filled explanation. I want to talk this out as politely as possible.